tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post2697711311180834774..comments2023-10-18T02:03:42.145-07:00Comments on LEARNING TO LIVE FREE: Lurkers Please PostUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-59581378376698176532010-09-22T09:28:01.722-07:002010-09-22T09:28:01.722-07:00I'm still here, just don't post much anymo...I'm still here, just don't post much anymore. Moving on with my life, very happy with new church, very glad to be away from oalc!<br /><br />Free, hope you are well.<br /><br />4EyesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-69075459684284636392010-09-05T21:50:05.173-07:002010-09-05T21:50:05.173-07:00I still check in quite frequently, but dont often ...I still check in quite frequently, but dont often post anymore. Ive been happily enjoying moving on with life, and there are fewer and fewer 'stranger in a strange land' moments and situations :) But I know 'home' is here when I do feel that way. Where people know where Ive been and where I want to go, without having to try and explain it all. Thanks!hp3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-34896228126416770262005-08-24T08:29:00.000-07:002005-08-24T08:29:00.000-07:00No mystery that I'm here.And my scars prove we...No mystery that I'm here.<br>And my scars prove we have at least something in common. :)exoalchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12195180245552127271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-21530227175486126062005-08-24T09:18:00.000-07:002005-08-24T09:18:00.000-07:00LLLreader is alive and kicking.LLLreader is alive and kicking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-75165983156982791012005-08-24T10:49:00.000-07:002005-08-24T10:49:00.000-07:00I'm still around...I'm still around...theoforoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04190193034220386908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-3686964026088414512005-08-24T11:12:00.000-07:002005-08-24T11:12:00.000-07:00I have never posted before but I read your site al...I have never posted before but I read your site almost daily! I left the FALC recently and am glad to see that their are many others who were smart enough to get away from these churches. Thanks to everyone who has shared your stories. It has strengthened my faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-27876336910852106022005-08-24T11:30:00.000-07:002005-08-24T11:30:00.000-07:00I want to suggest a new posting just for discussin...I want to suggest a new posting just for discussing the problems of the FALC...that church has a lot of problems. Their was a recent split in Cokato and I know their are people out there who need to hear the truth...they may be searching on this site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-49294880085996850612005-08-24T12:46:00.000-07:002005-08-24T12:46:00.000-07:00Hello, I visit regularly, probably daily, to see w...Hello, I visit regularly, probably daily, to see what's new. While I'm saying "Hello," I would like to offer this comment (encouraged by my sister):<br>For my part at least, I would like to be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that I have no beef with the PEOPLE in the OALC. I have some cousins in the Brush Prairie area who are loving, forthright, dear, dear people and always have been. I also have cousins still in the church who have done some very bad things and "gotten away with it." This is no different than any other slice of humanity, NEITHER BETTER NOR WORSE. I leave them all in God's hands.<br>What I do take issue with on this blog are the OALC TEACHINGS and some of the beliefs, particularly the belief in exclusivity. I think it is our obligation to God to take issue with what we see as wrong-mindedness. If in open discussion we see that we were mistaken, we can correct our thinking. It should always be our intention to add to the "Truth" side of the scales, an activity which will always receive the support and assistance of the Holy Spirit. Of that I am absolutely certain. Amen.<br>Many Trails HomeMany Trails Homenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-90106765456021531962005-08-24T13:44:00.000-07:002005-08-24T13:44:00.000-07:00I am occasionally coming to read your blog. Someti...I am occasionally coming to read your blog. Sometimes it is weeks, sometimes a couple of months in between my visits.<br><br>I am a conservative Laestadian myself, who is interested in other branches of the Laestadian movement to gain some more depth in understanding what this faith is about.<br><br>Personally, I am happy with the conservative Laestadian teachings and faith and seriously regard my congregation as the true Kingdom of God. It also looks like we are not having many of the problems present in the OALC.<br><br>"Nameless"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-37856428286978477632005-08-24T13:46:00.000-07:002005-08-24T13:46:00.000-07:00About FALC... to "Anonymous" Anything mo...About FALC... to "Anonymous" Anything more you could tell about the split?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-26879230091282301442005-08-24T14:53:00.000-07:002005-08-24T14:53:00.000-07:00Yes, anything you want to know. I am one of those ...Yes, anything you want to know. I am one of those that left the church. Its really a lot of things that were going wrong. I would say the main problem being the understanding of faith and forgiveness? I'm not so good with explaining things good so maybe other ex FALC people can add in...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-44824215050149018972005-08-24T15:29:00.000-07:002005-08-24T15:29:00.000-07:00Hello, Free2BME, I am also one who checks in on a...Hello, Free2BME, I am also one who checks in on a regular basis (every day, unless I am out-of-town) to see what is being discussed. I must confess that I'm keeping a journal into which I put all the topics I hope to bring up on this site. I'm waiting for inspiration on my wording, I guess!Sisunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-30358737129667001632005-08-24T15:37:00.000-07:002005-08-24T15:37:00.000-07:00Faith here, I check in a couple of times a week.. ...Faith here, I check in a couple of times a week.. lifelong member of ALC but interested in all points of view and have never really understood what the other churches - our sister and brother Laestadian churches - believed... church membership not being #1, rather, faith which believes our blood-bought freedom was purchased at the foot of the cross... Jesus paid it all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-25191034106989326092005-08-24T17:36:00.000-07:002005-08-24T17:36:00.000-07:00OALC: For women: No makeup, no earings, no fancy c...OALC: <br>For women: No makeup, no earings, no fancy clothes with bright colors or designs on them, long hair required, most of the girls are married by the age of 20. Women wear hyvees during church.<br><br>Other: No drinking, no TV, radio or internet, No pictures taken in the church, even during weddings. No organ in the church, they have 4 preachers that sit up front at the same time. Many large families. Church is very simple.FreeAtLasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05244818195810155811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-6504564158158329852005-08-24T18:17:00.000-07:002005-08-24T18:17:00.000-07:00Still here and checking daily. More if a good conv...Still here and checking daily. More if a good converstation is going, so I only have to read for a minute instead of 1/2 an hour of catch-up. Sometimes I wonder if this is a drug or a cure!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-56280164880202542242005-08-24T18:20:00.000-07:002005-08-24T18:20:00.000-07:00Still here and checking daily. More if a good conv...Still here and checking daily. More if a good converstation is going, so I only have to read for a minute instead of 1/2 an hour of catch-up. Sometimes I wonder if this is a drug or a cure!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-73663123148334145902005-08-24T18:40:00.000-07:002005-08-24T18:40:00.000-07:00I check about every 3 days or so. This doesn'...I check about every 3 days or so. This doesn't seem to be a drug OR a cure to me, but anonymous--I sure keep coming back too, so I can see why you would mention it. It's a place of familiarity of feelings. The familiarity of being in the OALC is what keep some people there--the sounds and sights are what we knew as children and there is a comfort in that. The familiarity we feel on this site is shared understanding of what it took to leave. We KNOW each other in a very deep way, even though we don't know each other's names. Thank God for this siteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-67683614457822284262005-08-24T18:48:00.000-07:002005-08-24T18:48:00.000-07:00Amen to that.Amen to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-26970351753158823642005-08-24T21:05:00.000-07:002005-08-24T21:05:00.000-07:00Hyva ilta!Hyva ilta!Vainamoinennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-18158673620146176562005-08-25T19:12:00.000-07:002005-08-25T19:12:00.000-07:00Yeah, the toughest thing for me when leaving the c...Yeah, the toughest thing for me when leaving the church was leaving the social group. However, I wouldn't trade my faith to go back there. I am thankful to know the truth now!!FreeAtLasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05244818195810155811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-10645595721127569802005-08-25T19:46:00.000-07:002005-08-25T19:46:00.000-07:00I post every so often. I'm from a "Polla...I post every so often. I'm from a "Pollari group" and not an ex- or an apostate, but a current member. I initially went on because I was curious about the OALC as my son has classmates in the OALC. My church is not conservative in dress and women are free to limit their families and to get an education. We can go to the movies, watch TV and secular music, listen to the radio and go on the InterNet. No public confession of sin. We still have rejoicing. It is still, however, exclusive in doctrine for the most part. We don't shun people who have left us, they remain dear in our hearts and in our families. Maybe that is why nothing negative (so far) has been posted about us. I believe I am believing in the right way and every morning I know I must wake up and believe anew. However, I reserve the right for judging to Jesus, who sitteth on the right hand of God and who will come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe I am following the right doctrine. When I came to this realization I felt free. Before, I felt burdened. I feel free to love others outside of my faith. My fiance is an athiest who lives in Gellivare, the "mecca" of the OALC, and he works with one of the elders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-45308698147865033752005-08-25T19:48:00.000-07:002005-08-25T19:48:00.000-07:00I meant, by the way, that I came to the realizatio...I meant, by the way, that I came to the realization it was not up to me to judge, and that is what made me feel free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-43318050795681715452005-08-26T00:44:00.000-07:002005-08-26T00:44:00.000-07:00About the FALC split...Was there some major differ...About the FALC split...<br><br>Was there some major difference in the doctrine between the (now) two groups? Are both of these groups still exclusive, or is it getting less in one of them (most likely those who "left")? - now that people are discussing going to ALC.<br><br>I guess it wasn't about life style, anyway? Or how is it, do the people in FALC still have large families etc?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-21026663116899388812005-08-26T01:58:00.000-07:002005-08-26T01:58:00.000-07:00Gods peace.I'm from Finland kind of OALC paris...Gods peace.<br>I'm from Finland kind of OALC parison. Just happened to visit on this site. There is much debat also in Finland of the problems caused because of misunderstandings of grace caused by The Crist's salvation.kalikkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-90650788724318983652005-08-26T05:40:00.000-07:002005-08-26T05:40:00.000-07:00We have many "mixed" marriages in our fa...We have many "mixed" marriages in our faith. Mine will just be one of many. Sometimes the unbelieving spouses come, sometimes they don't. We don't forsee having children, as both of us have a child from our first marriage already. But if we do, he's agreed to letting me raise a child in our faith. He likes going to church with me. He likes the people there. He thinks there is a lot of love there and support, but he thinks of it in more sociological terms. We've already made the agreement that for the two children we already have, he will raise his child without religious interference from me, and I will raise mine without him disputing doctrinal issues with him. It's about mutual respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com